VBB 308: Christina Marlett - Is Self-Care Just Women Being Selfish?

Intro [00:00:01]:

Virgin Beauty Bitch Podcast: inspiring women to overcome social stereotypes and share unique life experiences without fear of being defiantly different. Your hosts, Christopher and Heather.

Let's talk, Shall we?

Christopher [00:00:20]:

What do you think of when you hear the words self-care? Do you have visions of an exclusive spa, maybe in the tropics, or a full day being pampered at a salon? Or maybe it's just a bubble bath and a juicy book. What about the kind of self-care, though, that gets under your skin? Self-care that can assist you in getting the most out of yourself and the most out of your life? For that kind of self-care, it helps to know someone like our guest. She's an international speaker who has shared stages with names like Michael Beckwith, Marcie Schaimoff, and Lynn Twist. She's also a number one international best-selling author, a master facilitator, a certified embodiment coach, and Waitfort. She's also the founder of courageous self-care. Welcome back. Christine Marlett to Virgin Beauty Bench.

Christina Marlett [00:01:19]:

Thank you very much. I'm so happy to be here.

Christopher [00:01:22]:

We are overjoyed to have you. Christina, you have a new book titled Not Your Mama's Self-Care Guide (Cause she probably had none, so you should read this). We'll get tips from that as we go along here. But first, Christina, what would you say it is that people misunderstand most about the concept of self-care and why it is so important?

Christina Marlett [00:01:45]:

Well, self-care, like you were saying, it's actually a pretty new concept. So we're still in the baby stages of it in terms of pop culture. It was created initially as a political statement. I did this research when I was writing this book because I had already had a shift in my ideas about what self-care was. And I was very surprised to learn that it really only emerged kind of in the sixties, 1960s. So then it turned into a marketing frenzy, I think, like what you were saying, putting stuff on your skin and being pampered and very external. And even then, it kind of shifted into, like, what you can do to take care of yourself in terms of nutrition and hydration and rest and what's the other thing? Movement. And yes, that's all important.

Christina Marlett [00:02:46]:

But as I often say, you can take all the bubble baths that you want, but if you're at your core kind of unhappy, the bubbles are not going to help all that much. Sadly, they do not go down the drain. Your unhappiness will not go down the drain with no effort on your part. And so I'm very interested in internal self-care, which is shifting ours. Like, we have a choice about every belief that we have. For instance, there's a section in there on how you interact with time. It's a choice. You can choose to believe that life is short, or you can choose to believe that life is not only long, it's also wide.

Christina Marlett [00:03:26]:

And one of them, to me, feels way better than the other one. And so, yeah, we get to choose our beliefs. We also get to be noticing where our thoughts tend to go, our standard emotional set point. And so when we start to pay attention to what's happening on the inside, that takes courage. That's why it's courageous self-care. It's much easier to just go and eat chocolate and have bubble baths. But if we start to pay attention to the inside, then in the book, I drew lots of fantastic, but not very good images, diagrams, like, if I was sitting down next to, and I wanted to explain something, that's what it's like. So lots of stick figures, and I have a diagram of if you have a kayak and you're paddling and you're just sticking in your oar on the external self-care, you're going to go in circles.

Christina Marlett [00:04:18]:

But when you start to dip in the internal self-care, and then the external self-care, and then the internal and the external, then you'll start to make progress in life.

Christopher [00:04:25]:

I want to just add to that. What is the difference between personal development, as another industry that has developed recently, and self-care? Are they combined, or are they separate? How do those things work together?

Christina Marlett [00:04:40]:

Ooh, good question. So, I would say they can definitely piggyback upon each other. And personal development, at least in my experience, and I've done a lot of it, it can be very, get out there and do stuff like with arms waving in the air and flags and capes and I, that kind of thing, and self-care, it can be very personal. So, like, I used to have a podcast, and I interviewed people all the time and asked them what self-care meant to them, and I got so many different answers. One woman's version of self-care was singing to her chickens every morning, like, whoa, that never crossed my mind that that could be self-care. That's fantastic. I love it.

Christina Marlett [00:05:26]:

So I think they can be synonymous. And then also, what I've come to understand in my training as an embodiment coach is that so much of personal development is just focused on the mind. And while the mind is magnificent, it can also be quite tricky. We have so much valuable wisdom below the neck. And so I think that self-care has the opportunity to be really holistic and not just accessing the wisdom of the body, but the wisdom of our entire energy system.

Heather [00:06:03]:

I think you've just really, like, hit the nail on the head. When I think of those two as different entities that may overlap or even be synonymous at times, I feel a lot of our culture has almost jokingly gone into being a human doing rather than a human being. And you know, just how much of self-care is still an act. For when you're talking about the external surface level, an act of doing something to try to get almost a transaction back, whereas your book is about diving into more the human being attuned to the whole being rather than just what's above the neck. So could you help our guests, our audience, kind of go into how you bring it from maybe not just below the neck, but to get out of this human doing all in the mind sort of frenzy that we're in?

Christina Marlett [00:07:01]:

Absolutely. There are so many parts of the book we could go to. I think maybe the top level of it is. So there's a section on the being and the doing. And from my perspective, I don't know that I learned this from anyone. It was, or maybe I did, and I just forgot that I learned it from them. But my understanding of being and doing actually came from this kid's book called something like - Let's Do Nothing. And it's two kids trying to do nothing, but they discover even when they're lying there doing nothing, they're still lying there trying to do nothing.

Christina Marlett [00:07:34]:

And so my awareness around that is, I think the missing piece there, for me at least, was that we're always gonna be doing something. Like, even if you're chilling, you're doing something. If you are meditating, you're doing something. So, to me, what's important is how you are while you're doing. For instance, I was talking to a client one time, and she was trying to do something good for herself, going for a mile-long walk every day. And then she told me what her mind was doing while she was walking, and she was berating herself. Like, why am I not going further? Do I even really want to be walking? Maybe I should be at the gym. Like it was echoing the patterns in the subconscious of I'm not enough; am I ever going to be enough? That is how she was being while she was walking versus when I go for a walk.

Christina Marlett [00:08:24]:

I'm like, the trees, they're beautiful. I'm so connected with the fall colors. Oh, the grasses are blowing in the wind. I'm going to give them a high five just for being alive. So, it is the same activity but a very different experience. And to me, one certainly feels better than the other. So it's developing this awareness of no matter what you're doing, how you are being, and what's going on in the mind. What are you noticing as sensations in the body? If I'm out for a walk and I'm reveling in the gorgeousness, I'm also tuning into how this actually feels like a sensation. And, oh, it feels magnificent. It feels expansive and effervescent and like just totally in alignment with the wonderful benefits of being in nature.

Christopher [00:09:14]:

Were our grandmothers and mothers ' lives somehow simpler or so different that they didn't necessarily need what it is that we need today in order? Self-care is concerned, I think.

Christina Marlett [00:09:29]:

Yes, it is simpler, but not necessarily better. So, from my perspective, even just a few generations ago, it was about survival. There wasn't the luxury of self-care. So we are in a magnificent place right now because we have washing machines to wash our clothes while we can go do something else. We have dishwashers that will wash our dishes. So yeah, it might be simple to go to the river and wash your clothes, but then it takes 6 hours, so not even the awareness of anything called self-care. And so, yes, simpler, but also, and then, like, our lives are complicated now, but we do have more leisure time. So I think.

Christina Marlett [00:10:21]:

And then technology, like, I don't know about you, but like, technology, I need self-care after dealing with technology. So we, the Dalai Lama, have said that it's the Western woman who is going to save the world. And I don't know about saving the world, but Western women have advantages that women in other parts of the world don't have. We get to vote; we get to speak freely for the most part. We get to work in ways that we want to, that bring us joy. And so we also have the responsibility, because we have all of this, at least I feel a great responsibility to help shift consciousness. I feel a responsibility to help uplift humanity. And when I pay attention to myself, and this is why I say in the book, I believe self-care is not selfish, because when I'm working on myself, especially in this internal way, to access more and more vibrations of how I want to feel, more and more often, I become, and if you're doing this too, you become a blessing no matter what you're doing.

Christina Marlett [00:11:32]:

I could be washing my hair, and I could be radiating great energy to someone on the other side of the world who needs it in that moment just because maybe I'm singing, or maybe I've just had an aha, or maybe I'm just feeling so grateful for the hot water, and so you don't even have to go out and do these gigantic things. When you pay attention to what's going on in your inner world, you get to just be a blessing and have an impact no matter what you're doing.

Heather [00:12:03]:

There are a couple of things that you've said that I find so uplifting, like giving the long grass a high five or singing in the shower.

Heather [00:12:11]:

It's so fun. It's so lovely. And being grateful for hot water while you sing in the shower. And I think, you know, with all of the hardship that does come in life, no matter where you are on this planet, the loss that happens with all of us, finding those moments that can be a glimmer of something vibrant. I think that there's something to what you just said, and I think that when you get out of that shower, and you're out in the world again and what you give off in the interactions that you're experiencing that can make such changes in how another person's day is or, you know, what kind of new opportunities come to mind because you're not stuck in, you know, in the challenge, I guess. Are there other elements of your book when it comes to this? Because I love how you said, where are you being while you're doing? And in a world that is so fascinated with what you can achieve in order to be successful, rather than what you are actually getting in this experience, in this body as you move through the things that you do in this world, can you share with us? Like, when people are trying to take a deeper dive into that internal monologue or that internal voice, what have you found helpful to bring awareness to it and maybe even, like, set a new path?

Christina Marlett [00:13:38]:

Yeah. There's a chapter called The Jungle of the Mind or something like that because it can be a jungle in there. And initially, my mind was so, so critical, and everything was about getting it right. And if I got it right, is there a way to get it righter, comparison-oriented, and super perfectionistic? And so I've learned some different ways of showing up in there. Don't need the machete anymore to navigate the jungle, the mind. And so I would say two things. I was just teaching this to a group recently.

Christina Marlett [00:14:17]:

So there are very basic practices. If you're kind of at a starting point with this. A very great practice is to be observant of what's going on in the mind because the thoughts we have, there are different estimates, but, like, 60,000 thoughts a day, and at least 80% of those thoughts, if you haven't worked with your mind, 80% of them are negative, and, like, 98% of them are the same thoughts that you had the day before and the day before, like, for decades and decades. And so, what we want to do is become aware of what we're thinking. And so you might notice, like, you might notice, oh, I'm so grumpy. Okay, what was I thinking? Oh, I was thinking this. And then whatever statements or thoughts or thought patterns that you notice if they have kind of a negative tone to them, like self-defeatist or being really hard on yourself, then you switch them to the positive. So let's say you noticed that you were thinking, I'm a loser.

Christina Marlett [00:15:21]:

No wonder that didn't go well. I'm such a loser. And so when you notice that and you have awareness, all of a sudden, you're not necessarily believing that that's true. There's a part of you, the observer, that has been turned on and saying, oh, I noticed that. I was thinking that, and I'm more powerful than that thought. And so, like, I. The basic practice is, if you're thinking you're a loser, turn it into a positive and repeat it to yourself three times. So the exact opposite might be that I'm a winner.

Christina Marlett [00:15:52]:

I'm a winner, I'm a winner. It might not feel true at all, but it's better than believing what your mind initially said to you. So that's one practice that is super effective, and that's where I certainly started out. Then, practice that I'm loving right now is turning on that observer again and going another step beyond and saying, okay, part of my mind made that up; I love you. Thank you for being a part of me. Like, the more love we can pour into our hilarious little mind, it's just doing its best. It makes up problems and then shows you that it's being useful by trying to solve them and fix them. But if that worked, it would have worked by now.

Christina Marlett [00:16:39]:

So, the mind wants to be of service. It wants to do a great job. And the only way that really it's been trained, at least in my experience and kind of Western thought, is to make up problems so that it can solve them. But the next step above that is to just pour love in, like, oh, little mind that thinks I'm a loser. That is so cute. Like, when are you going to learn? But I love you anyway. I'm just pouring in unconditional love because you're a part of me. I accept that you're here.

Christina Marlett [00:17:13]:

I am so big that I can embrace all the parts of myself, and so I'm just loving you. And when that part of your mind has all it wanted was attention, it just wanted some recognition. And some people teach that we're at war with the ego and that we need to, you know, conquer it. I have learned that from a number of different teachers and mentors. It's actually love. If we can pour love in. Love is the highest vibration. Nothing is bigger than love.

Christina Marlett [00:17:41]:

So when we pour love, and then that part of the mind just goes, I've been trying to get our attention for so long, and now I did.

Christina Marlett [00:17:49]:

I can be on my way now. Thank you. I feel so much better. And then it knows it's been of service to you. Some different ideas there on how you can deal with that jungle in there.

Christopher [00:17:59]:

It's interesting because Heather and I, when we started this Podcast, it was based on a premise of Feminine and Masculine, and it sounds like this resonates with that so perfectly. It's like the Masculine wanting to make stuff up so it can fix it because that's what it does. And then the Feminine comes along and says, there there. I love you. It's okay.

Christina Marlett [00:18:23]:

Yes, totally.

Heather [00:18:26]:

I love you. And I see you.

Christina Marlett [00:18:28]:

Yes.

Heather [00:18:31]:

Well said, Christopher, because I'm thinking of, you know, even like, you know, what came to mind for me was kind of little kids that will make up all kinds of different problems, but really, at the heart of it is they just want someone to look at them and notice what they're doing, just to feel seen. So I love that you've applied that to these different elements of what our mind can see. I definitely resonate with trying to battle it almost kind of feeds it in the wrong direction. So it sounds a lot more soothing to say, okay, you are there. I see you over there. And I love you.

Christina Marlett [00:19:08]:

Exactly. And we can do that with all the feeling parts of us, too. Like, oh, the part of me that feels ashamed. I don't need to make you go away. I'm just going to love you. Thank you for being a part of me. The part of me that feels betrayed. I love you.

Christina Marlett [00:19:19]:

The part of me that feels offended. The part of me that feels enraged and furious. I love all of you. Let's just all gather around and spend some time together. And it sounds so simplistic that probably some minds out there are going like, yeah, I don't think so. That won't work.

Heather [00:19:35]:

But their brain's like, no, no, it's.

Christina Marlett [00:19:39]:

It has to be more complicated than that. Like, I need to take a course with 78 steps on how to conquer this problem that I have. And I actually know, like, pouring love in, and sometimes I'll share that with people, and they'll be like, but how do you do that? And, like. Like, just what I said, you. You literally find that part of you; you identify what you were just feeling. Maybe put your hands on your heart, if that feels good to you, and you just say, okay, part of me that's feeling sad, I love you. And then you just hang out with that part of you for a little while, and it will melt. Generally, within five minutes if, I was enraged and furious and writhing with outrage; within five minutes, I was like, what was the issue? I don't know. I feel so much better.

Christopher [00:20:25]:

Simplicity. We make it more complicated than it needs to be. Courageous and courage, talk about that. And the courage it takes to do the simple things, like you just spoke about.

Christina Marlett [00:20:39]:

Right? So I love the idea. I read it once and expounded upon it. So bravery is an external thing. Like, we would attribute bravery to someone else because we don't know what's going on in their inner world. So someone might say to me, you're so brave you do public speaking. Brave is actually the absence of fear. So, that's public speaking for me. I don't have a fear around it.

Christina Marlett [00:21:07]:

I love it. I get excited. The more people, the better. So brave is something that we don't know what's going on in someone's inner world, but it's also an absence of fear. Courage means taking action in spite of fear. So, loving that part of you that is afraid and proceeding anyway. And the reason that it's important to do that is because what you want is on the other side of the fear. And what I'm talking about, like, not the mansion that you want or the new outfit or the new purse that you want.

Christina Marlett [00:21:40]:

No. It's values on the other side that are so important to you that you're willing to get uncomfortable. That's all that fear is. It's just being uncomfortable. Also, do not buy into the stories that the mind has made up of what's going to happen when you do proceed. But it is being so in love with maybe the idea of, like, I love creativity. I love learning. I just bask in being of service.

Christina Marlett [00:22:10]:

And so all of those things are more important to me than staying where I am and not moving through that fear. Courage means the coeur, the heart in French, and that's where it comes from. So we're using our heart to connect with what is on the other side of the fear, and then we're moving through. So, self-care, that takes courage. It is doing things that are not normal. Like I say to my kids, we are at the age where they have significant others. They have boyfriends and girlfriends. And I know that lots of the things I talk about are super weird, especially to teenagers.

Christina Marlett [00:22:48]:

So I'll just preface it and say, yep, that's just because I'm weird. It's okay. And, like, I do this, and I'm weird, and, oh, yeah, our family's a little bit weird. And just putting it out there and being okay with it helps to diffuse any thoughts that they might already be having. So it's doing things that might be unpopular. It's doing things that might be uncomfortable. It's doing things like I tend to function outside of what is popular and normal. So that's why all of this self-care, especially, like, just the idea of going within, that's not.

Christina Marlett [00:23:28]:

It's normal to me, and it's normal within the, like, the people I coach and the programs that I teach for. But when I get out into the regular world, I'm like, all right. I'm so weird, so different, and. But I'm much happier. So, like, I remember one time I was at this event, and I made a decision after 911 to not watch the news anymore. A few years later, I stopped listening to the news, and I was at an event when a woman asked me if I had heard about this thing that was happening. I said, oh, actually, I don't really partake in the news. And she just looked at me, and she said, yeah, I can tell that about you.

Christina Marlett [00:24:08]:

You look so happy. And I don't know if it was a compliment or not, but I took it as one. So it's not normal to not watch the news. I have people in my life who are very concerned that I don't partake, but I always find out what's important, so I'm not worried about that.

Christopher [00:24:26]:

I hear you.

Christina Marlett [00:24:28]:

Yeah.

Heather [00:24:28]:

Well, I think the lesson there is really owning who you are, and you just are beaming when you say who you are and owning it. So I think that speaks volumes.

Christina Marlett [00:24:40]:

Well, thank you. I'm way different from how I used to be. I used to be quiet and reserved, and I thought I was happy. And then what I realized after diving deeply into this new world, I realized, oh, I was conditionally happy. I was happy if I won an award, happy if I got good grades when I was in high school and university, or as happy if I got compliments. And what I realize now is, well, that was good. It was better than being not happy. It's not the same kind of happy that I am now.

Christina Marlett [00:25:15]:

I am deeply content no matter what happens. I have such a solid, unbreakable foundation that there can be all sorts of stuff happening in the outer world, whether it's way far out in the world or even in my immediate relationships. And sometimes, of course, things are tumultuous and challenging, and I practice loving all the parts of me that are showing up. But I don't get phased like I used to.

Christopher [00:25:43]:

Well, you're setting your own boundaries. I mean, getting awards and good grades. Someone else has set those as standards for you to meet. And, yes, you feel happy when you've accomplished that because you've made someone else's standards your own. But to have your own boundaries, to have your own values, and to accomplish those, that takes a lot of work to assemble.

Christina Marlett [00:26:09]:

Yeah, right. Who am I anyway?

Christopher [00:26:15]:

Exactly. Exactly. Which is what's fantastic about all of this work. So, who is your book for, and what can they expect to get out of getting that book for themselves?

Christina Marlett [00:26:30]:

Well, the back of the book explains it quite well. I think it's for women in particular. Of course, anyone can read it. It's not off limits, but it's for the high-achieving, highly productive woman who, on the outside, appears very successful. And on the inside, there are cracks in the foundation. It might be a tendency to really be in that performing personality. Like, I look good on paper, but if you were to really get to know me, yikes.

Christina Marlett [00:27:02]:

It's for the. So it might be a woman who is, like, my mom's age, kind of that generation, who had no frame of reference for self-care. So it's a brand new thing. It's also for women my age. Like, I have teenagers who are at the higher end of the teens. It's definitely for people like me. Like, boy, if I would have had this book a few years ago, whoo. It would have been so good.

Christina Marlett [00:27:28]:

It's also for young women and anyone who is interested. I've worked with a lot of women who have big accolades and, like, c suite executives running companies, deans of universities, professors, principals of schools, that kind of thing. And while, like I said, while it looks good on paper, there might be issues going on that are not on the paper. Like, their body is definitely speaking to them in significant ways with pain, chronic issues, dis ease. It might be relationships. It might look good from the outside, but there can be problems with the relationships. It's also for the woman who could be in that really masculine energy, which is very goal-oriented and yet feels surprisingly empty once the goals are accomplished because a lot of structure has been built, a lot of that masculine energy. So it might be the accomplishments that are being built, but the essence, the Divine Feminine flowing through the inside, is missing.

Christina Marlett [00:28:46]:

And when we build without the essence, it crumbles. So what I'm a big fan of doing is pausing, reflecting, and gathering before we move forward to the next thing so that we're benefiting from the journey along the way. It's not just a list of accomplishments. It is like, who am I becoming? Let's celebrate. I have a whole section on how I think we mostly get celebration wrong and the benefit of doing something I call deep celebration. So, acknowledging who you are is important because anything you want to get from the outer world, if you can learn to give that to yourself, oh, you will feel so full. You won't need to depend on others to fill you up.

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Heather [00:29:32]:

You just said this so eloquently, but I'm going to ask it because we enjoy asking this of our guests. But, Christina, what does feminine mean to you?

Christina Marlett [00:29:43]:

Well, I have a whole chapter on that, too.

Heather [00:29:45]:

Love it.

Christina Marlett [00:29:47]:

So, at one point, I didn't even know it was a thing. And I remember reading Men Are From Mars; Women Are From Venus, and I didn't understand the Venus part at all. I'm like, what? Women are like that? Huh? I'm so confused. I could only identify with the masculine. To me, they're both important. The thing about the masculine is that a while ago, it was severed from its divinity, and it turned into power over others. And so there's nothing inherently wrong with the divine masculine nor the Divine Feminine. And so I think they're both parts of the same whole.

Christina Marlett [00:30:33]:

So to me, the hunter energy describes the divine Masculine. It's laser-focused. It is goal-oriented. It is action-oriented. It is the structure, it's the form. Like, I know what I'm doing. This is my task. I'm going to do it.

Christina Marlett [00:30:52]:

And that's where I used to live. But there probably was not any divinity to it then when I discovered the Divine Feminine, that is the gatherer energy. It's being aware of the seasons. It's being aware of what's going on in the community. It's knowing what we can use from the earth to nourish ourselves. It is the flow; it's the life force. And in the book, I'm pretty sure I put this in there; there's a follow-up book that's coming, so it's in one of the two, but I'm pretty sure it's in his one.

Christina Marlett [00:31:23]:

Once I went to the ballet, I found a new frame of reference for the Divine Masculine and the Divine Feminine as I watched a pas de deux with new eyes. So I saw the two dancers, the man and the woman. So, first of all, the man did his solo, and it was heroic. He was jumping so high and spinning so fast, and we could really see his strength. And people applauded because it was just, wow, like, that is divine masculine. And it was glorious. Then the woman came out, the prima ballerina, and she did her solo, and boy was she strong, but in a completely different way. She could spin and spin and spin, but she added flexibility and fluidity, and she could hold her leg way up above her head for so long, and she could balance on her toes with other limbs going out in different directions and stay centered amidst the spinning.

Christina Marlett [00:32:13]:

And so you get the idea that, whoa, that's a lot of strength, too. So, there's nothing true about the feminine being weak at all. When they came together, I really understood why we wanted this wholeness and completeness. Everything in nature is a perfect example of the union between the masculine and feminine. And so when the man was with the woman, he could help her stretch even further. He could lift her higher than she could go by herself. He could help her jump further. And so, to me, that's what the union is.

Christina Marlett [00:32:47]:

We want to have the cradle of the masculine, the form, so that the life force of the Divine Feminine, the creativity, can flow without taking over. Like a riverbank, the river, the bank, is the masculine, and the river flowing through it is the feminine. If the. If we don't have the masculine, we have a flood, so we don't want that. And if we have no feminine, we have a drought. We don't want that. We want a union between the two. So that's a roundabout way of answering your question, but yeah, that's what the feminine is to me.

Christina Marlett [00:33:23]:

It's strong. It's a life force. It's mysterious. Mysterious. It is creativity. It can be very wild. And so I think the conversation also has to include that cradle, that form of the divine Masculine to hold it. Otherwise, it's too much.

Christina Marlett [00:33:43]:

And the same thing, too much of the masculine, which is what we've experienced. That doesn't work, either. So, the union is super important to me.

Heather [00:33:50]:

Fantastic.

Christopher [00:33:52]:

So, thank you so much for sharing with us. Your titles always, always get me. They're just so great. Not Your Mama's Self-Care Guide (cause she probably had none, so you should read this).

Christina Marlett [00:34:06]:

Just telling it like it is. And I said to my mom, this isn't about you. This is about all moms. Don't take this personally.

Christopher [00:34:18]:

That's perfect. But we can't thank you enough for giving us your time and your energy. It's always so vibrant. And we love having these conversations with you.

Christina Marlett [00:34:29]:

Thank you so much. It's such an honor and a pleasure to be here. And you ask such great questions. So, that's how we want to be using the mind. We want to use our minds to answer great questions, go beyond where we've been before, and then pour in that love. So, thank you for facilitating that.

Heather [00:34:46]:

I mean, as always, Christina, it's just so nice to hear from you again and to see this next book. So I can't wait to read it, full stop. Tell our listeners where they can get a copy.

Christina Marlett [00:34:58]:

Well, it's currently on Amazon in all the countries. I'm pretty sure I set it up that way. So, yes, Amazon, if you just search Not Your Mama's Self-Care Guide or Christina Marlette, you will find it.

Christopher [00:35:15]:

Thank you so much. It's just a joy and pleasure to have you. And you have been listening to ...

Heather [00:35:20]:

The Virgin, The beauty, and The Self-Care Bitch. The Bitch deserves Self -Care, too. Okay?

Christina Marlett [00:35:27]:

For sure!

Christopher [00:35:31]:

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